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 Post subject: Proof By Induction
PostPosted: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 13:59:10 UTC 
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Hi all..

I'm trying to prove the following...

3^n > 3n + 1 for all positive integers n > 1... (*)

I'm using induction on n to prove the above..

Basis Step:

n = 2: 3^2 = 9 > 3(2) + 1 = 7

Inductive Step:

Assume (*) is true for some value of n > 1 (Inductive Hypothesis)

Need to show it is also true for n + 1

That is need to show:

3^(n+1) > 3(n+1) + 1

3^(n+1) > 3n + 4

Now

3^(n+1) =

3 * 3^n > 3 * (3n+1) (By I.H.) = 9n + 3

My question is, do I just say that 9n + 3 > 3n + 4 at this point and conclude that (*) is true? Or is there some other justification I need to show.

Thank you

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 Post subject: Re: Proof By Induction
PostPosted: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:09:17 UTC 
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MathWhiz wrote:
Hi all..

I'm trying to prove the following...

3^n > 3n + 1 for all positive integers n > 1... (*)

I'm using induction on n to prove the above..

Basis Step:

n = 2: 3^2 = 9 > 3(2) + 1 = 7

Inductive Step:

Assume (*) is true for some value of n > 1 (Inductive Hypothesis)

Need to show it is also true for n + 1

That is need to show:

3^(n+1) > 3(n+1) + 1

3^(n+1) > 3n + 4

Now

3^(n+1) =

3 * 3^n > 3 * (3n+1) (By I.H.) = 9n + 3 this is not by the IH, this is by the distributive law

My question is, do I just say that 9n + 3 > 3n + 4 at this point and conclude that (*) is true? Or is there some other justification I need to show.

Thank you


NO! Almost, but not quite. What you need to show is that, for n>0 that 3(3n+1)=9n+3>3n+4, this will complete your proof.

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 Post subject: Re: Proof By Induction
PostPosted: Tue, 21 Jun 2011 20:38:06 UTC 
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MathWhiz wrote:
Hi all..

I'm trying to prove the following...

3^n > 3n + 1 for all positive integers n > 1... (*)

I'm using induction on n to prove the above..

Basis Step:

n = 2: 3^2 = 9 > 3(2) + 1 = 7

Inductive Step:

Assume (*) is true for some value of n > 1 (Inductive Hypothesis)

Need to show it is also true for n + 1

That is need to show:

3^(n+1) > 3(n+1) + 1

3^(n+1) > 3n + 4

Now

3^(n+1) =

3 * 3^n > 3 * (3n+1) (By I.H.) = 9n + 3 this is not by the IH, this is by the distributive law

My question is, do I just say that 9n + 3 > 3n + 4 at this point and conclude that (*) is true? Or is there some other justification I need to show.

Thank you


NO! Almost, but not quite. What you need to show is that, for n>0 that 3(3n+1)=9n+3>3n+4, this will complete your proof.


Thanks..

You mean for n > 1

and I meant 3 * 3^n > 3 * (3n+1) (By I.H.)

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It doesn't matter for the second part, but yes, if you show it for n>0, then in particular it's true for n>1. And you are correct with your application of the I.H. if that is where you intended it.

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