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Can a computer scientist be simultaneously good at mathematics ,System thinking and coding?
Poll ended at Fri, 7 Oct 2005 07:26:17 UTC
SURE 67%  67%  [ 6 ]
not really 11%  11%  [ 1 ]
they are interrelated 22%  22%  [ 2 ]
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PostPosted: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 02:59:22 UTC 
bugzpodder wrote:
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jazzmaster wrote:
GOD, your opinion holds well for development of "simple" systems like databases, corporate programming. If you want to translate an algorithm from a SIGGRAPH paper into code, sometimes, it's *very* far from trivial. It takes a lot of skill, thorough understanding of the algorithm, and a lot of experience to do it right.


Again, knowledge of the algorithm and commanding knowledge over the implementation language were premises. Why is this overlooked with every reply? Christ.

-- X Conrad X


if you know exactly how the langugage works, and if you know exactly how an algorithm works, then clearly you won't have any problems implementing an algorithm in that language except for typos when implenting! so clearly making those assumptions is unreasonable. Hell, even a robot could do it, if it knew exactly what to do (written out in pseudocode step by step)!!

In actuality, you must provide your own implementations in a paper, which is based on numerous other results! And clearly a lot of details will be left out and it is up to the implementer to decide. And clearly, initially nobody except the arthor has "commanding knowledge" of the algorithm, so it is all part of the process to learn the algorithm, decide on the best implementation, do it, debug, and finally produce.

GOD, when you have time, go pick up a set of Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming.


I have the set as well as his updates. What next? :)

-- X Conrad X


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bugzpodder wrote:
GOD, when you have time, go pick up a set of Donald Knuth's The Art of Computer Programming.


Knuth.. what a great example of an .. er.. computer scientist?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Knuth

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he received his bachelor's degree and master's degree in mathematics in 1960 at the Case Institute of Technology (now the Case School of Engineering, a part of Case Western Reserve University). In 1963, he earned a Ph.D. in mathematics from the California Institute of Technology,...


(Disclaimer: this comments is mainly in jest.. don't take it too seriously)


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GOD wrote:

I have the set as well as his updates. What next? :)

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good for you. now go read it. I mean to read it carefully enough to even notice errors in the text, like I have. :D

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PostPosted: Mon, 3 Oct 2005 04:30:04 UTC 
bugzpodder wrote:
GOD wrote:

I have the set as well as his updates. What next? :)

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good for you. now go read it. I mean to read it carefully enough to even notice errors in the text, like I have. :D


I worked out of parts of the first and second volumes when I was deciding whether or not I wanted to major in CS. That was 2 years ago, so I don't remember finding any errors in the text. Doesn't he offer like 75 cents if you find an error? Since you sound like a careful reader, you should be a millionaire by now ;)

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 Post subject: Definately need math
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I believe that you definately need a deep understanding of algorithms


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