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 Post subject: Catenary problem with varying density
PostPosted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 02:10:30 UTC 
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G'day. A bit of help on this one would be greatly appreciated.

A string hangs between x=-2 and x=2 and has the equation y=19+cosh x. (All lengths in metres)

Calculate the mass of the string given the following linear densities:

a) density = 10 grams/metre
b) density = 11-|x| grams/metre

I know how to calculate the length of the string, so here's where I am so far:

Given cosh^2(x) - sinh^2(x) = 1
and sinh(-x) = -sinh(x)
and arclength = int(a,b) sqrt[1+y'(x)^2] dx
= int(a,b) sqrt[1+sinh^2(x)] dx
= int(a,b) sqrt[cosh^2(x)] dx
= int(a,b) cosh(x) dx
= sinh(b) - sinh(a)

So, I reposition the catenary so it's minimum is at (0,1) ie y=coshx

now arclength = int(-2,2) cosh(x) dx
= sinh(2) - sinh(-2)
= sinh(2) + sinh(2)
= 2sinh(2)
~ 7.254m
For a) density = 10 g/m, mass of string is 10*7.254 = 72.54 grams (4 sig figs)

And then I'm stuck. I understand that for b), the density changes with respect to x but I'm not sure how to apply this to the problem. Can anyone assist? (and please let me know if my original working is flawed somewhere - I'm learning this at my own pace and without tuition (big thanks to MIT OCW and Wolfram Alpha!) and I don't know any maths geniuses...)


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 Post subject: Re: Catenary problem with varying density
PostPosted: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 03:49:26 UTC 
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nateb wrote:
G'day. A bit of help on this one would be greatly appreciated.

A string hangs between x=-2 and x=2 and has the equation y=19+cosh x. (All lengths in metres)

Calculate the mass of the string given the following linear densities:

a) density = 10 grams/metre
b) density = 11-|x| grams/metre

I know how to calculate the length of the string, so here's where I am so far:

Given cosh^2(x) - sinh^2(x) = 1
and sinh(-x) = -sinh(x)
and arclength = int(a,b) sqrt[1+y'(x)^2] dx
= int(a,b) sqrt[1+sinh^2(x)] dx
= int(a,b) sqrt[cosh^2(x)] dx
= int(a,b) cosh(x) dx
= sinh(b) - sinh(a)

So, I reposition the catenary so it's minimum is at (0,1) ie y=coshx

now arclength = int(-2,2) cosh(x) dx
= sinh(2) - sinh(-2)
= sinh(2) + sinh(2)
= 2sinh(2)
~ 7.254m
For a) density = 10 g/m, mass of string is 10*7.254 = 72.54 grams (4 sig figs)

And then I'm stuck. I understand that for b), the density changes with respect to x but I'm not sure how to apply this to the problem. Can anyone assist? (and please let me know if my original working is flawed somewhere - I'm learning this at my own pace and without tuition (big thanks to MIT OCW and Wolfram Alpha!) and I don't know any maths geniuses...)


Total mass is \int_\gamma\rho(s)\,\mathrm{d}s, where \rho(s) is the (linear) density at length s on the curve \gamma.

For the curve y=19+\cosh(x), we find \mathrm{d}s=\cosh(x)\,\mathrm{d}x, so ...

(Of course, the varying density means your string doesn't actually hang, but there must be some other forces involved or the catenary is an approximation.)

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 Post subject: Re: Catenary problem with varying density
PostPosted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 04:25:38 UTC 
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Thanks for the quick reply!

Okay, so if I've got this straight, it's just


\int_{-2}^2\rho(x)\cosh(x)\mathrm{d}x = \int_{-2}^2 (11- |x|)\cosh(x)\mathrm{d}x\approx 70.81

I have a feeling that I really should have figured this out for myself! What the integral "says" is that it is the sum of the density (with respect to its displacement from x=0) multiplied by the length of \mathrm{d}s along the entire curve...I could attack the part a) in the same way, using \rho = 10 such that

\int_{-2}^2\rho(x)\cosh(x)\mathrm{d}x = \int_{-2}^2 10\cosh(x)\mathrm{d}x\approx 72.54

Thanks heaps for the push in the right direction. Please let me know if I have stuffed this up somehow...

-Nate


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 Post subject: Re: Catenary problem with varying density
PostPosted: Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:02:24 UTC 
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Oh, and I should credit you with helping me learn about how to write maths problems properly! Cheers. :D


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