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 Post subject: Recognizing Subgroups
PostPosted: Sun, 19 Feb 2012 02:29:27 UTC 
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Im working on #2. Just a quick question which may turn out to be more complicated, but on showing the inverse is in H
'log(n^-1)' if n is an integer is n inverse (n^-1) also an integer? i know log(n^-1) wont always be an integer but 'n' inverse would be, wouldn't it?


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Im working on #2. Just a quick question which may turn out to be more complicated, but on showing the inverse is in H
'log(n^-1)' if n is an integer is n inverse (n^-1) also an integer? i know log(n^-1) wont always be an integer but 'n' inverse would be, wouldn't it?


The elements of H are real numbers x such that n=e^x for some n\in\mathbb{N}. Now, since the original, underlying group is (\mathbb{R},+) we need to consider x^{-1}=-x and as is is true that e^{-x} is also a positive integer, and the answer should be obvious: not unless n=1, so H fails to be a subgroup of (\mathbb{R},+).

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haden't thought of using e. thanks


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You don't have to, you can directly just know that if x=\log n then -x=-\log n ergo -x=\log{1\over n} and since n was a positive integer, in order for -x\in H it must be that n=1, but of course we can pick the x with n=2 and its inverse is missing.

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