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 Post subject: interesting polynomial type inequality
PostPosted: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 08:04:01 UTC 
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If n\geq 2 is even integer and x\in\mathbb{R} prove that

x^n+1\geq 2\sqrt{\dfrac{x^2\left(x^{2n-2}-1\right)}{\left(x^2-1\right)(n-1)}


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 Post subject: Re: interesting polynomial type inequality
PostPosted: Wed, 25 Jul 2012 08:58:05 UTC 
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If n\geq 2 is even integer and x\in\mathbb{R} prove that

x^n+1\geq 2\sqrt{\dfrac{x^2\left(x^{2n-2}-1\right)}{\left(x^2-1\right)(n-1)}


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The desired inequality is equivalent to
\left(\dfrac{x^n+1}{2}\right)^2\geq \dfrac{x^{2n-2}+x^{2n-4}+\cdots+x^2}{n-1}
which follows from the proof of
\dfrac{x^n+1}{2}\geq \dfrac{x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}+\cdots+x}{n-1}.


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\begin{aligned}
Spin(1)&=O(1)=\mathbb{Z}/2&\quad&\text{and}\\
Spin(2)&=U(1)=SO(2)&&\text{are obvious}\\
Spin(3)&=Sp(1)=SU(2)&&\text{by }q\mapsto(\mathop{\mathrm{Im}}\mathbb{H}\ni p\mapsto qp\bar{q})\\
Spin(4)&=Sp(1)\times Sp(1)&&\text{by }(q_1,q_2)\mapsto(\mathbb{H}\ni p\mapsto q_1p\bar{q_2})\\
Spin(5)&=Sp(2)&&\text{by }\mathbb{HP}^1\cong S^4_{round}\hookrightarrow\mathbb{R}^5\\
Spin(6)&=SU(4)&&\text{by the irrep }\Lambda_+\mathbb{C}^4
\end{aligned}


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 Post subject: Re: interesting polynomial type inequality
PostPosted: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 14:49:51 UTC 
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Could you please give more details?

I can't see how you get the first inequality by the second one and how you prove it (the second one).

For example the C-S inequality gives that:

(n-1)\left(x^{2n-2}+x^{2n-4}+\cdots+x^2\right)\geq \left(x^{n-1}+ x^{n-2}+\cdots + x\right)^2

and if we accept the second inequality then I don't think that this helps to get the first one because (look the opposite boxed inequality below):

\left(\dfrac{x^n+1}{2}\right)^2\geq \left(\dfrac{x^{n-1}+x^{n-2}+\cdots+x}{n-1}\right)^2 \boxed{\stackrel{C-S}{\leq}} \dfrac{x^{2n-2}+x^{2n-4}+\cdots+x^2}{n-1}


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 Post subject: Re: interesting polynomial type inequality
PostPosted: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 21:55:41 UTC 
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This is a proposed problem, he doesn't have to post more. If you need this for homework or something, it should be on another board.

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 Post subject: Re: interesting polynomial type inequality
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Oops, I forgot the words "the proof of" after "follows from", now corrected.

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\begin{aligned}
Spin(1)&=O(1)=\mathbb{Z}/2&\quad&\text{and}\\
Spin(2)&=U(1)=SO(2)&&\text{are obvious}\\
Spin(3)&=Sp(1)=SU(2)&&\text{by }q\mapsto(\mathop{\mathrm{Im}}\mathbb{H}\ni p\mapsto qp\bar{q})\\
Spin(4)&=Sp(1)\times Sp(1)&&\text{by }(q_1,q_2)\mapsto(\mathbb{H}\ni p\mapsto q_1p\bar{q_2})\\
Spin(5)&=Sp(2)&&\text{by }\mathbb{HP}^1\cong S^4_{round}\hookrightarrow\mathbb{R}^5\\
Spin(6)&=SU(4)&&\text{by the irrep }\Lambda_+\mathbb{C}^4
\end{aligned}


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 Post subject: Re: interesting polynomial type inequality
PostPosted: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 05:22:42 UTC 
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